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Since quite a few people here use eSUN filaments I asked William at intservo.com (eSUN's U.S. distributor) to make the chart available for ... Home Forums SearchForums RecentPosts Projects SearchProjects MostActiveAuthors Members NotableMembers RegisteredMembers CurrentVisitors RecentActivity 0 0 Guest YourProfilePage ContactDetails Privacy Preferences AlertPreferences Password YourNewsFeed LikesYou'veReceived YourContent PeopleYouFollow PeopleYouIgnore LogOut Showonlinestatus Conversations ShowAll... Alerts AlertPreferences ShowAll... ROBO3DUserForum Forums ROBOR13DPrinter ThePrinter PrintingFilament Gotaquestionorneedhelptroubleshooting?PosttothetroubleshootingforumorSearchtheforums! eSUNFilamentSpecChart Discussionin'PrintingFilament'startedbyWheresWaldo,Feb3,2016. WheresWaldo Volunteer(͠°͟ʖ͡°) StaffMember Joined: Feb18,2015 Messages: 5,905 LikesReceived: 3,593 SincequiteafewpeoplehereuseeSUNfilamentsIaskedWilliamatintservo.com(eSUN'sU.S.distributor)tomakethechartavailablefordownload.ItdoesnotreplaceMaterialSafetyDataSheets(MSDS)butratherisaquickoverviewoftheirproducts.   #1 WheresWaldo, Feb3,2016 Lastedited:Feb3,2016 MikeKellyandmarktomlinsonlikethis. WheresWaldo Volunteer(͠°͟ʖ͡°) StaffMember Joined: Feb18,2015 Messages: 5,905 LikesReceived: 3,593 PersonallyIhavetriedtheirPLA,ePC,PETGandCleaningfilamentsandhavebeenhappywithallsofar.TheirwoodfilledisPLAbasedandusesbamboofibers.IamlookingforwardtousingtheirWood-fill,FlexandPLA+filamentsinthefuture.   #2 WheresWaldo, Feb3,2016 MikeKelly Volunteer Joined: Mar11,2013 Messages: 6,967 LikesReceived: 2,276 That'sprettycool.I'vehadgoodlucksofarwithmyeSunfilamentsd,especiallytheirprototypesupplyline   #3 MikeKelly, Feb3,2016 WheresWaldo Volunteer(͠°͟ʖ͡°) StaffMember Joined: Feb18,2015 Messages: 5,905 LikesReceived: 3,593 William@intservocontactedmeandmentionedthateSUNistheonlymakerofPVAfilamentandthatallcurrentbrandsonthemarketarerelabelsoftheeSUNproduct. AlsowespokeabouttheeSUNWoodfilament,itisPLAbasedandheisprettysureitisBamboofilled.Itshouldbelightweightandhavealightcolorafterprinting. eSUNisalsotryingtomoveintomoreindustrialfilaments,wearelikelygoingtoseemoremetalfilledandotheradditivestoproducestrongprintablefilaments.AsIgetmoreinformationIwillpassitalong.   #4 WheresWaldo, Feb5,2016 KTMDirtFace Well-KnownMember Joined: May18,2015 Messages: 1,247 LikesReceived: 461 IjustwishtheyhadmorecolorsfortheirPETG,moresolidcolorstoo.ThejollyranchercolorsarecoolandallbutI'mgettingboredwiththesame4-5colorstheyhave.   #5 KTMDirtFace, Feb5,2016 WheresWaldo Volunteer(͠°͟ʖ͡°) StaffMember Joined: Feb18,2015 Messages: 5,905 LikesReceived: 3,593 Don'tknowtheirplansonthat,Iamgoingtotryouttheirfilledfilamentsheresoon.Ihopetheycontinuetomoveforwardwithmorechoicesandcolors.WilliamdidsaythattheyreallylikethenewPLA+,easiertoprintandstrongerthanpreviousPLAfilaments,hesaid'finer'also,butIamnotsurewhatthatmeans.Butifit'sanywaybetterthanstraightPLAitmightsatisfymyneedformorecolors.TheyarecomingoutwithaeStainlessSteelfilament(PLAbased)andanotusualblendedcarbonfiberfilled.GuessIamgoingtohavetoswapinmyVolcanoandsomehardenedsteelnozzles.Iamanxioustotryalltheirfilledstuff,althoughIseetheirconductiveTPUbasedfilamentasarealnicheproduct.Idon'tknowifhehasanyABS+instockbutthechartshowssomeimpressiveimpactresistancenumbers,almostashighaspolycarbonate. HealsotoldmethateMorphisremoldableafterprintingunderhotwater.Maybesomeoneelsecancomeupwithareasonforthatone,Ican't.   #6 WheresWaldo, Feb5,2016 KTMDirtFace Well-KnownMember Joined: May18,2015 Messages: 1,247 LikesReceived: 461 eMorph,isthatlikeFriendlyPlastic?butyoucanprintit?SoundscoolbutyourrightIdon'tknowwhatIwoulduseitfor. IuseditformakinglightbucketsforascaleRCtruckonce.NotsurewhyIwouldwanttoprintitandthenmorphitthough. http://www.amazon.com/AMACO-Friendly-Plastic-Pellets-4-4-Ounce/dp/B0026HWG16   #7 KTMDirtFace, Feb5,2016 KTMDirtFace Well-KnownMember Joined: May18,2015 Messages: 1,247 LikesReceived: 461 Justorderedsomeesuncleaner,andeFlextotry. I'msohappywiththeirPETG,theyarespoolednice(neverhadatangle)   #8 KTMDirtFace, Feb6,2016 DavidSparrow Member Joined: Jul20,2014 Messages: 126 LikesReceived: 16 IwishESUNputmorecareintocolorintheirPETGproducts.Thecolorstheyhaveusedhavecompromisedtheintegrityoftheproduct.ThesolidRedispaleandbrittleafterprintingbutthemagentaisfine.SinceMagentaisunlikelytobeacolorthatisabigselleritwaslikelyanaccidentwhentryingtomakered.Thebluewhileabsolutelybeautifulwon'tsticktothebedeventhoughtheblackdoesverywell.ThefumesfromtheBluemakethreemembersofmyfamilysick.Thatnecessitatedmybuildingaventingsystemtotheoutside(eventheventingsystemisn'tenough).Moregoesintocolorationthanjustpickingadye.Youhavetotakeintoaccountit'schemistryatawiderangeoftemperaturesandhowitmightreactwiththeplasticitself.Thisisveryunprofessional.TobehonestI'mextremelydisappointedandthinkESUNneedstogettheiracttogether.   #9 DavidSparrow, Feb8,2016 WheresWaldo Volunteer(͠°͟ʖ͡°) StaffMember Joined: Feb18,2015 Messages: 5,905 LikesReceived: 3,593 IhavenotpersonallytriedtheirsolidredPETG,butIcansaywithconfidencethatIhavehadseveralspoolsoftranslucentblueandneverhadanyissueswithstickingtothebed.Theonlytranslucentcolortogivemeproblemswasorange,andIhavegonethroughnearly5completespoolsofit.Whilesomestickbetterthanothers,thereisnooneuniversalmethodtogetbetteradhesionandsomanyfactorsgointobedandintra-layeradhesion,itwouldbeimpossibleforthecasualobserver,especiallyfromadistance,tospeculateonwhyanyofushaveissueswithonespooloveranother. Lookatthisrecentstudyaboutfumesandprintingplastics,http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/acs.est.5b04983.AllplasticsnomatterwhatemitVOCsandotherparticulatesintotheair,workingwithoutventilationisjustunwiseregardlessofhowsafeitmightbe.Commonsensehastorulewhenworkingwithplastics.Justbecausetheremaybenoperceptibleodordoesn'tmeananyofthefumesaresafe.Youcannotplaceblameonanyfilamentmanufacturerforthat,itisthenatureofthemediumweareworkingin.Ofcoursecolorationismorethanjustaddingdye,IamsureeSUNknowsthisalltoowell. Unlessyourbackgroundisinchemicalengineering,whohasdoneacomprehensivechemicalanalysisofthefilaments,anydefinitivestatementsmadearemoreopinionthanfact.SowithoutknowinganybodiesbackgroundIcouldeasilyreplaceeSUNwithanyothermanufacturer'snameinthesetypesofstatementsanditwilllikelybejustastrue. Likemostmanufacturers,eSUNdoesnotreleaseinformationonwhatchemicalstheyusetocolortheirnaturalfilaments.As3Dprintingtriestobecomemoremainstream,therewillbeacallformoretransparency.Itwillmostassuredlyenduplikeprinterink/tonerwherewewilljustneverknowwhatitiscompletelycomprisedof.Reasonablecaremustbetherule. Justadisclaimeraboutthismessage,Irewroteitseveraltimestomakesureitisnotviewedasanytypeofpersonalattackon@DavidSparrow.Ifelttheneedtoaddressthestatementsmadeinthesamemannerinwhichtheinformationwaspresented.   #10 WheresWaldo, Feb8,2016 marktomlinsonlikesthis. DavidSparrow Member Joined: Jul20,2014 Messages: 126 LikesReceived: 16 Allreleasevoc,I'mtalkingaboutsomethingreleasedspecifictothebluetranslucentpetg.Whateveritisisseveraltimesworsethantheblack.   #11 DavidSparrow, Feb10,2016 KTMDirtFace Well-KnownMember Joined: May18,2015 Messages: 1,247 LikesReceived: 461 Didn'tknowtheyevenhadsolidPETGinred.Neverseenthatoption.Ihavethemagenta?itlookslikeclearred.Ihavn'topenedityet. IhaveusedLOTSofEsunPETGorange. andIhaveusedaspoolofPETGblack,andaspoolofyellow(itskindahoneycolor/clearishreally) AllIknowisIhaveneverhadatanglewithEsunstuff,soI'mstickingwithit.Tanglesarethemostannoyingthingtomeever..andIhaveneverhadonewithEsunstuff.   #12 KTMDirtFace, Feb11,2016 Lastedited:Feb11,2016 WheresWaldo Volunteer(͠°͟ʖ͡°) StaffMember Joined: Feb18,2015 Messages: 5,905 LikesReceived: 3,593 ThesolidRedisnew.ItwasoriginallyonlyBlackandWhite.Ihaveusedtheblack,itisreallyshiny,andImeanreally!TheWhiteisstillunopened.TheMagentaisdarkerthanmostredsIhaveseen,soIcanseewhytheynameditthatway.ThetwotranslucentcolorsIhaven'tprintedareYellowandGreen.IliketheirePC,strongerthanABSandwarpslesssoitisabiteasiertouse,butitmustbeextrudedhot!   #13 WheresWaldo, Feb11,2016 MikeKelly Volunteer Joined: Mar11,2013 Messages: 6,967 LikesReceived: 2,276 WheresWaldosaid: ↑ ThesolidRedisnew.ItwasoriginallyonlyBlackandWhite.Ihaveusedtheblack,itisreallyshiny,andImeanreally!TheWhiteisstillunopened.TheMagentaisdarkerthanmostredsIhaveseen,soIcanseewhytheynameditthatway.ThetwotranslucentcolorsIhaven'tprintedareYellowandGreen.IliketheirePC,strongerthanABSandwarpslesssoitisabiteasiertouse,butitmustbeextrudedhot!Clicktoexpand... Whodoyoubuyfrom?Intservo?   #14 MikeKelly, Feb11,2016 WheresWaldo Volunteer(͠°͟ʖ͡°) StaffMember Joined: Feb18,2015 Messages: 5,905 LikesReceived: 3,593 MikeKellysaid: ↑ Whodoyoubuyfrom?Intservo?Clicktoexpand... IboughtabunchfromAmazon,INTSERVOisthemainAmazonsupplier,WilliamisalsotheUSdistributorofeSUN.Hissiteintservo.comisusually$1.00orsocheaperperspoolbutyouneedtobuy3rollstogetfreeshippingandbeatAmazonPrime.Sobottomline,spendmorethan$80.00andintservo.comisabetterdeal,otherwisesmallordersgotoAmazon.IshouldalsomentionIgetthesameshippingfrombothasINTSERVOandIareinthesamestate.   #15 WheresWaldo, Feb11,2016 KTMDirtFace Well-KnownMember Joined: May18,2015 Messages: 1,247 LikesReceived: 461 Ibuyfromboth,normallyIbuyfromAmazonsoIcangetprimeshipping,butIhaveordereddirectfromInterservotooanditcameprettyfast...whenamazonwasoutoftheorangePetg. YesIagreetheblackisveryshiny.doesn'tbothermethough. JustgotmyESUNcleanerfilamenttoday,ranitthrough,seemstoworkIsawabunchoforangecomeout..andIhavn'tprintedinorangeinawhile.soitmusthaveclearedstuffout. EDIT:VadorontheleftisinESUNPEGTsolidblack..itisshiney   #16 KTMDirtFace, Feb14,2016 Lastedited:Feb14,2016 MikeKellylikesthis. (Youmustloginorsignuptoreplyhere.) ShowIgnoredContent ShareThisPage Tweet Yournameoremailaddress: Doyoualreadyhaveanaccount? No,createanaccountnow. Yes,mypasswordis: Forgotyourpassword? Stayloggedin ROBO3DUserForum Forums ROBOR13DPrinter ThePrinter PrintingFilament